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E2 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July
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E2 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July

Rabbi Michael Holzman, Rev. Dr. Vernon Walton, and Rev. Dr. Latricia Scriven discuss the famous speech delivered by Frederick Douglass in Rochester in 1852 . They explore what drives Douglass's pain, where his hope comes from, and why his indictment of America is ultimately an act of love. This conversation is candid, theological, and at times personal. 

  • 0:00 — Introducing the speech and the speakers

  • 9:58 — Douglass's pain, and why he still cares

  • 15:44 — The African American well of hope and forgiveness

  • 35:08 — The difference between convincing and conviction

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